Tinted Finishes on C. F. Martin
Tinted or "Stained" finishes were first an option on some Martin guitars
in the 19th century, but eventually became standard on some Martin
models toward the end of the century, before being offered on some
models made for dealers such as Ditson and the Southern California Music
Company in the early 20th Century.
Various tinted guitars...
...including 1897 and 1898 Martins with dark tint & pumpkin tint
options, 1916 Southern California Music spruce top sample,
light tint 1916 Ditson Style 22, Ditson Style 11 with $1 dark tint
option, 1922 Olcott-Bickford 0-44, and 1931 Wm. Lange
Note that every tint is slightly different in color.
The light tint Ditson Style 22, and Style 11 with $1 dark tint option from
Comparing the 1897 Martin with dark tint with the 1916 Ditson Style 11
with dark tint option.
The 1897 martin has a darker tint.
The Style 33 has the darkest tint of any Martin built Ditson guitar, not
quite as dark as an 1890's dark Martin top, but more consistent, and less
brown, with more red.
Light tint 1916 Ditson Style 22, Spruce top 1917 sample Southern
California Music, Pumpkin top 1898 Martin:
Spruce top sample Southern California Music, Pumpkin top 1898 Martin:
The 1898 Martin Catalog lists the "stained face" as standard on the Style
28 and the larger sizes of the Style 21.
Spruce top sample Southern California Music, Olcott-Bickford Style 0-44,
Pumpkin top 1898 Martin:
Shaded Finishes on C. F. Martin Guitars
1932 Martin "32 Model" 0-18 and 1933 Martin 0-17 14 fret "Orchestra
Models", 1931 Martin for Wm. Lange "Paramount" tenor, and 1931 C-1 and
1933 R-18 Martin archtops.
While "sunburst" finishes have played an important part on Gibson guitars
from Lloyd Loar's mid-1920's "Master Models" until today, the more subtle
"dark tops" or "shaded tops" became standard on several Martin models,
such as the 0-17, 0-18, OM-18, as well as Martin's archtop models, in the
early 1930's, but have played a relatively modest part in Martin's
history, offered mostly as an option, and seen rather infrequently through
the years. The scarcity of shaded Martins have helped them gain
popularity and fetch high prices, but until relatively recently, shaded
Martins were not perceived as desirable to vintage buyers, and were often
tought to hide blemishes and inferior quality top wood. Most likely,
shaded Martins were simply a response to potential customers who were
attracted to the sound of Martins, but viewed more favorably the
appearance of the sunburst Gibson archtops that Martin's "Orchestra
Models" were originally intended to compete with.
Stained 1898 Orville Gibson made Style "O" Guitar with 1924 "Lloyd Loar
Master Model" L-5.
Martin "Paramount" Tenor for William Lange
Martin 1931 C-1 Archtop
Martin 1933 R-18 Archtop Guitar
Martin 1932 0-18 "model 32"
The Martin 0-17 and 0-18 were given the designation "32 Model" from
February and March, 1932, respectively, to November, 1932. A
standard feature of the new 14 fret "32 Model" 0-18 was it's shaded
The earliest shaded 0-17 I know of so far, #52465, from December,
1932, is from the first batch not to be labeled "32 Model". The
first I know of to revert to having no shading is #53241, from
mid-1933. I have heard of no non-shaded 0-17 between these times.
So I believe it's reasonable to assume, until we see evidence to the
contrary, that Martin began to shade the tops, backs and sides as a
standard feature of the 0-17 in December, 1932, at the same time the "32
Model" designation was dropped from both the 0-17 and 0-18, and shading of
the 0-18 was discontinued, and continued shading the 0-17 until May or
June of 1933.
Martin very rarely mentioned shading in their shop orders for any guitar
in any period.
It's not unheard of for Martin to move features downscale, as the Style 17
became a glossy finish 00, and the Style 15 was introduced to fill the gap
as a matte single 0.
The 0-17 was a popular model, so it may seem odd that so few are seen
today with shading as a regular feature. Yet nearly every Ebay ad
I've seen for a tortoise headstock 0-15 says "extremely rare, we've
only seen one other like this", despite the fact that I've now identified
sixteen separate batches of 0-15 Martins built with tortoise headstocks,
with a minimum of 1680 built, compared to an estimated total of less than
300 shaded 0-17.
Martin 1933 0-17
Martin 1942 R-18
Martin 1942 F-1
Photographs of Dark Finishes
Martin's dark finishes changed many times over the years, but the
changes were not unintentional. Martin was quite thoughtful
about such things.
The variation in photographic color balance is much greater than any
difference between the finishes on individual guitars at any given
These pics of my '24 Gibson Loar L-5 illustrate the difference between
natural light and flash on a sunburst finish:
or Over-Spray on C. F. Martin Guitars
A few words about "over-finish"
or "overspray", refinished Martins, and values:
In the early days of French polish finishes, it was natural for Martin to
add a bit of extra polish to spiff up a guitar when it came back to the
factory. When Martin moved to lacquer, they continued the practice. This
tended to happen most often to their best guitars, and the ones built for
show, which means more pearl Martins than any others received this
treatment. In the days of Martin's best work, the company often considered
a guitar with over-finish to be superior to the guitar with the original
finish, and swore that they sounded just as good, if not better.
Far more Martins than you would ever imagine with "original finish" were
refinished by Martin, after fixing minor problems, either before leaving
the factory, or before being sold by the dealer, with no negative impact
Martin routinely refinished guitars if they had a problem when they
reached the dealer, and sold them as new, and refinished almost new
guitars if they had a problem covered by the warrantee. No one ever
thought of these refinished guitars as inferior, and your guitar might
just be one of them without you even knowing it! I have one old
Martin with a replaced back that I never would have known about from a
Refinishing usually involves sanding, which can thin the wood of the top,
often making a guitar louder, but without the full sound and balance of
the original guitar. Martin has always been expert in refinishing
guitars, and routinely does so with minimal noticeable thinning and little
detrimental effect to the guitars.
Some folks automatically value any Martin without untampered original
finish as being worth only 50%. I believe that following this "50%
rule" is painting with a very wide brush. Or refinishing with a very
wide brush, perhaps. Old Martin factory finish work doesn't bother
me at all, and to lump these in the same category as crude, amateur refins
with thick globs of finish and thinned tops, makes little sense.
Fred Oster of Vintage Instruments in Philadelphia told me the best
sounding Dreadnaught he had heard in decades was a 1944 D-18 with an old,
light factory overspray.
If it takes endless inspection and debate to decide if a guitar is indeed
refinished or oversprayed or not, could it really be that big a deal?
As people understand the history and context better, I don't think these
guitars will be devalued by more than 15% or 20% or so. They can be some
of the best guitars out there. Once we learn more abut the culture
at Martin at the time the work was done, I think attitudes will change
While I don't believe in heavily discounting for quality, factory
overfinishes, I would pay a premium for a totally untouched original
How to tell if a Martin has an "over-finish"
There's no substitute for experience, but I'll try to give you some of the
benefit of my experience along with what I've learned from others.
One of the easiest ways to spot an overspray on a Martin with a stamp on
the back of the headstock is to see what the finish does to the stamp.
In my experience, overfinish adds a blobby look, and reduces
Headstock stamps can vary and take on many different looks, especially in
different eras with different types of finishes, but the letters generally
have a refined look to them.
A very light spray can hold definition, but the letters all tend to lose
character and three dimensionality.
It is very common with Martin stamps for some letters to have a deeper
imprint than others.
This should not be confused with overspray.
Martin finishes varied through the years, as materials and techniques
evolved, so the best way to spot an overfinish is often by knowing how a
finish from a particular year typically looks, and how a given example
compares. We also know that Martin finishes had a tendency to look
milky, for instance, in 1944, so many Martins from this year have been
Overspray on lacquer finishes have a tendency to create a wide crazing
that has a characteristic look.
Overspray also has a tendency to dissolve celluloid binding and cause dark
cracks in the binding.
When Martin finishes guitars with lacquer, the neck is sprayed before
being attached to the guitar, and finish is only applied to the 12th or
14th fret, depending on where the neck joins the body. You will see
that there is no finish on the side of the fingerboard where the
fingerboard extension is adjacent to the top of the guitar. Any
Martin with finish on the side of the fingerboard extension can be
determined to have overspray.
I believe an X year old factory refinish is every bit as good as an
original X year old Martin finish. A Martin overspray is every bit as good
as Martin without one. A refinish by someone else is just as good. Or not.
Especially if the top was thinned.
My guess is that a lacquer finish prewar Martin refinished by Martin at
least 20 years ago is is just as good as one with an original finish.
Of course, a 20's Martin with a lacquer refinish is not the same as an
original pre-lacquer finish. An older finish with decent French Polish
added should be as good as new.
and Polishing Finishes
on C. F. Martin Guitars
The patina of the finish can be one of the true delights of an old
Martin guitar. Unfortunately, a new owner polishing an old guitar
can destroy the original patina forever. This may not reduce the
value by a dime, but once these guitars have all been polished, we will
never again know what an original Martin finish from a given period
actually looked like. This to me is just as harmful as an overspray
from the Martin factory that many people believe to reduce the guitar's
value by 50%.
Dealing with dirt, sweat, and nicotine residue is one thing.
Dirt and residue can can be eliminated with a soft cotton cloth, a gentle
dishwashing soap, and a light touch. I've learned by mistake from
doing too much at once how easy it is to damage an original finish.
It's best to do a little amount at a time, to make sure you're not
eliminating any finish.
Altering the texture of the finish itself is something else entirely.
Polish, by definition, is like sanding, rubbing the surface with a small
grit to take away from the top layer of finish to eliminate the rough
spots and leave a smooth surface. Martin guitars of different ages
and finish types have varying signature textures to the finish that
differentiate them. A Style 45 has been polished to a high gloss, while a
Style 15 has a matte finish. A 1920's shellac based finish will have
a different look than an early French Polish, or the distinctive
transitional finish of 1930, or a glossy lacquer finish of the
1960's. And finishes naturally develop micro-crazing with age.
Once these finishes are polished, both the original look of the finish,
and the patina it has developed over time, will be gone forever.
There is also the issue of polishes with silicone leaving a residue that
can make it extremely difficult to work on the guitar in the future.
I strongly suggest that you clean the crud, but not do anything to alter
the finish itself unless it has already been irreparably altered.
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